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Jun 18, 2009, 11:53 PM // 23:53
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: Lost Templars [LoTe]
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I'm more interested in your statement about the hype about GW2...what hype pray tell? For there to be hype, there'd have to be information.
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Jun 19, 2009, 01:04 AM // 01:04
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I'm not sure I'd consider GW a MMO any more than Diablo 2.
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Jun 19, 2009, 04:38 AM // 04:38
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The real question is, will GW2 be an MMO? Or does anyone even care? Edit added out of boredom, after some thought the references by people (in this thread) to MMO meaning Massive Multiplayer Online is beginning to annoy me. Using Massive in this context seems to imply that the game itself is massive, whereas Massively Multiplayer Online implies just what it means, that it can be played by massive amounts of players together... 4-12 person instances aren't massive in the same way that Unreal Tournament isn't an MMO. For all it's MMO trappings, GW misses out on the massively bit... but then, GW never claimed to be an MMO, so that isn't a criticism. Forgive my boredom and inane nitpicking. Last edited by Nerel; Jun 19, 2009 at 07:45 AM // 07:45.. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 05:09 AM // 05:09
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A list of the most popular MMOs of 2008(by player volume) GW was #2, second only to WoW. Even in it's current state GW has more players than LOTRO, EVE and FFXI. All of which have players numbering in only the hundreds of thousands. I would call that pretty massive. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 06:00 AM // 06:00
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kyhlo
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And I think a lot of people care. Possibly 6 million, maybe more. It's also worth noting that most media regards Guild Wars as a MMORPG, rightly or wrongly. I think the general perception is that GW is a somwhat limited MMORPG, but that those limits are countered by the fact there is no monthly fee. But now ArenaNet announces Guild Wars 2 CAN have more "traditional" MMORPG features, and still not have a monthly fee. This can only increase Guild Wars 2 popularity. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 06:03 AM // 06:03
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Tell me how Diablo 2 and GW are not basically the same. The only difference is that you can't trade in channels, like you can in GW's towns, but that's because it's a pretty old game. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 06:05 AM // 06:05
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Forge Runner
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As for this thread, GW isn't an MMO. Its a CORPG that over the course of time Anet has tried to turn into an MMO. GW2 will be a fullscale MMO. /thread |
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Jun 19, 2009, 06:15 AM // 06:15
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Seriously, why does Guild Wars have to be "like" something? Can't it just be it's own thing? Quote:
Did I say 6 million are currently playing the game? No, I said 6 million people probably care about GW2. For the million or so that lost interest, there are a million or more who wouldn't buy Guild Wars, who will buy GW2 because of all the features discussed. People have to remember this game is 4 years old. Most MMORPGS don't age well. I don't have the numbers on AoC or WaR, but I wouldn't be surprised if more people have accounts with Guild Wars then those two games. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 06:31 AM // 06:31
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Jun 19, 2009, 06:38 AM // 06:38
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
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They haven't sold 6 million units, and at least some units are people buying campaigns to extend their account access or buying extra accounts.
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Jun 19, 2009, 07:04 AM // 07:04
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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It's like comparing a hobo to Bill Gates "zomg he isn't as rich as Bill Gates". That doesn't speak highly of the hobo whatsoever. Last edited by Cacheelma; Jun 19, 2009 at 07:48 AM // 07:48.. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 09:25 AM // 09:25
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GW never had or will have 6 millions of players. It sold 6 millions of COPIES, when a copy = any chapter of GW and expansion. If I have two accounts, one with every chapter and EotN, and another account with Factions and Prophecies, then I count as 6 "people". |
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Jun 19, 2009, 11:00 AM // 11:00
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Massively= A large amount Multiplayer= More than one person playing. Online= Played on the internet. Guild Wars has all three of these traits, so how is it not a MMO? |
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Jun 19, 2009, 11:58 AM // 11:58
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Did I hear 7 heroes?
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)
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"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" or something like that.
Think that can be applied here somehow. How about this: it's a game, end of discussion. You either like it or you don't. Some abbreviation is not going to change that. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 12:14 PM // 12:14
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2006
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The lists use the number of "activated accounts." That includes multiple chapters added to one account, the hundreds of thousands of gw players that have 2 or more accounts, and the MANY people that don't play GW anymore. In my nearly four years of GW, ive gone through nearly two full friends' lists of people that left GW for 1) a better game 2) a better company Many of these people were more than just "casual friends" and often played with alot of zeal before seeing that there are other real MMO's out there that can offer alot more, some where pay 2 play isnt the case. Last edited by shoyon456; Jun 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM // 12:18.. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Around
Guild: Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]
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GuildWars! The Ultimate Dance Dance Revolution Simulator!
Ok, I guess I see where people are coming from. GW is not a MMO because the amount of people able to play together is small when compared to. I get ya.
As for GW not being a massive game? Maybe not massive, but its purdy damn big! The one thing that GW does better than some other games (MMO's) is its terrain and enviroments. I can't speak on WoW's set up, but in EQ1, everything was pretty plain. LotrO had a nice variety but nothing like GW. GW does enviroments the way they should be done, or atleast in the right direction. The Bridge & Waterfall in the Azuran realm of EotN, The realm of torment, Fow, UW, The Magnum/Magnun(forget spelling) jungle, The jade sea, those towns in NF (later part of the game, pre desolation) with the purdy colors. (lol that helps.) The new dungeons with the shrooms and moss and little pools. Those are just a few of the areas I really like. But I agree, I don't care what its labeled as, I was just participating in the thread. I enjoy Gw for what it offers and not what its considered. 
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Jun 19, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
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You got worked up about 6 words.
He just said Guild Wars is no MMO. The same debate was once if Diablo counts as RPG. GW is not just like the standard formula for MMOs, and then people say it is no MMO. IMO it definitely is a MMO, people just like to narrow down "MMO" and "MMORPG" to the standard persistent level grindmill MMOs. |
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Jun 19, 2009, 02:12 PM // 14:12
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2007
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I completetly agrre with you Longasc.. But im going to ask a quiestion that others already ask..
What is a MMORPG Formula..? And who.. or what have set up with so called formula.? and Why =) |
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Jun 19, 2009, 02:32 PM // 14:32
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
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Common knowledge of prototypical games. Or at least the games that people know.
Just take a look at WoW, it was not the first game that followed the DIKU MUD scheme, but a very successful one. There are many games that share its characteristics like classes, skills, levels and all that. So WoW = MMO. Which is totally wrong of course, but still... GW is different in this regard, different skill system, rather limited levels, heavily instanced. People usually argue that "true MMOs" have to be persistant and make less use of instancing. But in the end, MMO means nothing else but Massive Multiplayer Online. And RPG Role Playing Game. Now you can argue what is "massive" actually, give me a number... P.S.: There is also a difference between MMO and MMORPG. But most MMOs fall in the MMORPG category. How about GW? Last edited by Longasc; Jun 19, 2009 at 02:34 PM // 14:34.. |
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